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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 14 2009, 03:37 AM (2,897 Views) | |
| BUU | Oct 14 2009, 03:37 AM Post #1 |
 
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I was thinking about this fight all day and I decided I might as well post it on the forum. There is no doubt that SS3 Goku is more powerful than Kid Buu, due to Psaym's posts in previous threads. But I disagree with Goku's claim that he could destroy Kid Buu if he was at "maximum power". I don't think that we can take Goku's claims as accurate (eg. remember the Dabura and Cell incident?). Goku's not exactly the brightest of the bunch. What could he have possibly have done to destroy Kid Buu? (a full charged kamehameha didn't have much effect) And Kid Buu and SS3 Goku (not fully charged)were fairly even. How much power could he have possibly have gained from being at maximum power? Frieza was able to keep up with SS Goku even though there was a 30% power difference.(And I doubt that SS3 Goku at max power would rise from being equal with kid buu to 30% stronger than Kid Buu, that would be too much of a ridiculous power boost). And Kid Buu has a speed and unorthodox fighting style advantage, as clearly shown during his fight. So, I wouldn't say this fight leans more to one side. |
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| Cooler | Oct 14 2009, 10:48 AM Post #2 |
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Goku was at maximum power at the beginning of the fight with Kid Buu and he couldn't beat him. In the Manga he was trying to beat Kid Buu from the off and stated that nothing was working. However I do think if Goku reached maximum power again he would have taken Kid Buu down, he'd fought him already he'd know what he was up against. If he put all his energy in a kamehameha it may have done the trick. |
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| * Psyam | Oct 14 2009, 02:41 PM Post #3 |
 
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Yeah I agree with Cooler, maybe a absolute max power Kamehameha could of done it, Kid Buu would probably just stand there and take it anyway. But he'd have to do a Kamehameha right from the start, no messing around. Frieza only did well against Goku in the animé by the way, Buu. Or, you could just say Goku was holding back the whole time to test Frieza's full power. There's no way Frieza could fight evenly with a power difference of 30,000,000 between them. |
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Oct 14 2009, 03:55 PM Post #4 |
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Goku said he wanted to embarrass and punish Frieza. Goku: "It's done." Frieza: "What!? What do you mean, it's done??" Goku: "Your pride has been torn to shreds. I'm finished." -and as for this thread, it's obvious that Goku would win because he blatantly says he could've. |
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| ryanson209 | Oct 14 2009, 07:35 PM Post #5 |
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In the manga, he was never at full power in the fight with Buu. He needed Vegeta, or anyone, to stall Buu as he tried to charge up to full power. Because he was alive, it took more energy from him and he couldn't do it. If he were dead, I think it'd be over. It wouldn't be as dramatic, but it'd be over. 
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| Emperor Cold | Oct 15 2009, 05:23 AM Post #6 |
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I think Goku would've ran out of energy before he could destroy Buu. I think at maximum power, he would've been the stronger of the two, but I don't think the difference in power would be enough to actually destroy Buu. The only one who ever did any lasting damage to him was Vegetto, and that was because he was light-years above him. Same with the spirit bomb. So apparently the only way to overcome his regenerative abilities is to hit him with something many times his own strength, and I don't think Goku was stronger by that much. An absolute max power kamehameha might do some damage, but the question is would he be able to hit him with it? My memory of that fight isn't that great, but at one point didn't Goku fire a kamehameha only to have Buu just bend out of the way or something? See, I've always thought that the biggest challenge they had with Buu was not so much in his strength but in how hard it was to kill him. So i don't think Goku being stronger by a few levels would be enough to put Buu down. |
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| BUU | Oct 15 2009, 11:43 PM Post #7 |
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I don't think Kid Buu is that stupid. He was smart enough to realize that Goku wouldn't launch the Spirit bomb if Vegeta was in the way. In my opinion, the only reason Kid Buu took all those energy blasts head on from Vegeta and Goku was because he knew he could survive them. After all, he was smart enough to know that the Spirit bomb had enough power to kill him. So, I don't think he'd be that stupid to take it head on. (Although I know that the max power kamehameha would destroy him) But perhaps your right, maybe Kid Buu would foolishly take it head on. But I would also like to bring up, if Goku missed, would he have enough energy to continue to fight Kid Buu? |
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| Super Goku | Oct 17 2009, 08:12 PM Post #8 |
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Well goku would essentially always be at full power, and boo is already always at full power, so its a matter of who's power is stronger, and fighting techniques. SSJ3 goku with a living body tied kid boo for a while, but he got worn out. If he was always at full power, he would most likely wear down boo after a while. He is slightly stronger. I mean, you cant just have an infinitely durable body, boo. He's gonna die eventually if Goku has the upperhand in power. Boo's fighting technique are weird, but .. goku is just stronger. even with a living body if he didnt wear out, he wouldve won. heck, he could just use a spirit bomb again. can we get some things straight? 1. can goku use a spirit bomb again. 2. what bonuses does a dead body provide. |
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| BUU | Oct 18 2009, 03:07 AM Post #9 |
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It's not that simple. What do you mean SS3 Goku and kid Buu would always be at full power? People in DBZ can hold back, just to enjoy the fight. For all we know, Kid Buu could have been holding back. I do agree that SS3 Goku (living), and Kid Buu were fairly even, but I don't think there is any way Goku in a living body would have won, he was just not that durable and his power consumption was just too large. So, from this we can say that SS3 Goku in a dead body, at full power would be more powerful than Kid buu. But I don't think it's enough to tip the odds so much.power isn't everything, as stated by goku in volume 1. As stated earlier, SS3 Goku's best chance is to do a maximum power kamehameha in the beggining, otherwise, I don't think there's anything else which he has that can destroy buu. Good Questions. Okay, for the Spirit Bomb thing, I don't think Goku can even get the oppurtunity to get the Spirit bomb ready. This time he doesn't get Vegeta and Buu to stall. But I suppose he can. A dead body allows power consumption to be reduced and is a slightly more durable body. |
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| Cooler | Oct 18 2009, 04:49 PM Post #10 |
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See I'm of the opinion that when the fight with Kid Buu began SSJ3 Goku was at maximum power and still even with him, so with a dead body Goku would be able to stay even with Kid Buu. Obviously Goku won't be able to kill him with punches and kicks so it comes down to whether a max power Kamehameha would be able to do the job. |
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| Qwuall | Oct 20 2009, 01:17 AM Post #11 |
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Kid buu's stamina and durability is to high for goku. In the fight with Kid buu and Good buu (who had to have been around vegeta, who was dead), The good buu lasted a very long time because of the same reason all the buu's got going for them. Also in this fight it shows that it takes someone with a clear power difference to wear down.. well, a buu. Kid buu vs SSJ3 Goku was pretty pretty even until goku got worn out, and that doesn't really mean everything as Buu is also known for foolin around. He was also able to back a Huge spirit bomb even after fighting everyone meaning he still had a considerable amount of energy left in reserve. Overall Kid Buu's Vitality and regen is to much for whatever effects A dead Goku could get. They Would still be even, Goku would only wear down to nothing much slower. |
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Oct 23 2009, 11:42 PM Post #12 |
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Goku -admitted- his capability of entirely destroying Kid Buu. You must have missed that. Goku's an idiot though. He just ended up wearing himself out for no reason. Goku at full power in the SSJ3 form would have launched Kid Buu straight to hell with a fully charged Kamehameha. |
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| Qwuall | Oct 24 2009, 12:35 AM Post #13 |
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I didn't miss it, he said something like "before when I was at full power I might have been able to destroy him, but now I can't, not like this" or something very iffy like. Personally I think goku was over estimating himself or under estimating Buu. Goku made a lot of mistakes in that saga. |
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Oct 24 2009, 12:49 AM Post #14 |
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He wanted to give Vegeta a shot at him. I'm pretty sure he felt that he could take care of Kid Buu. He was a moron though, because that's the second time he could have stopped his enemy but didn't. |
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| UltimateGohan | Oct 25 2009, 03:59 AM Post #15 |
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Goku said he could have beaten kid buu but he let the fight drag on so vegeta can have a shot in fighting buu, so ya goku wins, all he needs is a good shot but if goku misses and loses too much energy than kid buu wins ..... but goku is smart so he would win |
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